Hospitals in Hawaii to Obama: You Were Not Born Here!
By admin on Dec 2, 2008 in Blogging, Offbeat, Politics, Social Media

UPDATE February 2009 Click Here
Supposed Conspiracy Claim Turns REAL on Obama
It is becoming painfully obvious that we may very well have a criminal President in 2009. No this isn’t a joke. What I speak of is the curious developments in the supposedly racist, biased, dumb, as well as insane case of where Obama was born. Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate
A strange development indeed is how it is that every time Barack Obama or a family member tells of where Obama was born, they seem to have no idea as of December 2008.
They seemed to know what hospital quite a few times months ago when it was claimed that Obama’s mother gave birth to him at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu – Obama and Mom Never Here
The Queen’s Medical Center
1301 Punchbowl StreetHonolulu, HI 96813 Link to Site
Phone number 808-538-9011 General Medical Records 808-547-4361.
After it was concluded that Obama and his mother were never there, his sister was in an interview (Mary) and claimed that Obama was born at Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children – Obama and Mom Never Here 1319 Punahou StreetHonolulu, Hawaii 96826(808) 535-7000 Link to site
Hospital after Hospital – all Have No Record of Obama being born or Mom Ever being There.

Hospital after hospital in Honolulu all have NO RECORD of Obama or mother ever being there. Is this some state secret? Are we to believe that even the hospital that he was born in should remain secret? Why lie to us as if it matters I mean the man did win the Presidential vote? Why the lies and secrecy?
We already know that Obama’s family and the entire nation of Kenya (which is about to have a national holiday for Obama) know that Barack Obama was born in Mombasa Coastal Hospital in Kenya. The government of Kenya has sealed these records. More and more secrecy due to the fact that once proven, Obama will not be constitutionally allowed to become President of the United States!
All of these were called or visited from November 20 – December 2nd 2008. It is confirmed, OBAMA was not born in any hospital in Honolulu County! NONE AS A FACT!
Hospital employees were bribed, some gave info for free.
Hospitals you can check yourself (Hint on the process: Most of the following Hospitals didn’t exist in Honolulu County at time of Obama’s birth so this was an academic exercise) The main two hospitals claimed that definitely existed are above and both have no record of Obama or Mother Ann in either of them.
- The Queen’s Medical Center – Honolulu, Hawaii Obama claims as his birth hospital
- Kapi’ olani Medical Center Obama’s sister claims Barack Obama born here
- Honolulu Shriners Hospital Never a patient Mom or Obama
- Straub Clinic & Hospital Never a patient Mom or Obama
- Hawaii Health Systems Corporation – Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
- Cancer Institute of Maui – Wailuku, Hawaii No Comment ???
- Kuakini Hospital – Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
- Rehabilitation Hospital of the Pacific – Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
- St. Francis Healthcare System of Hawaii – Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
- Straub Heatlh – Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
- Tripler Medical Center – Honolulu, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
- Wahiawa General Hospital – Wahiawa, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
- Wilcox Memorial Hospital – Lihue, Kauai, Hawaii Never a patient Mom or Obama
We were pretty detailed in our calls and visits thanks to dozens of native Hawaiian patriots! To the College Republicans all over the Island kudos!. You can look at every hospital here and call or visit any of them. Everyone has a family member working in a hospital. Talk, pay and bribe. You can file freedom of information acts, you can do everything and anything you wish. Barack Obama was never born in a hospital in Hawaii as claimed.
Only his original that he has sealed will have this info. Will the Supreme Court force it open and thus preserve the Constitution of the United States?
Why the Barack Obama Birth Certificate Issue Is Legitimate
Hawaii Issues Birth Certificates to Foreign Born Residents!
Here’s Hawaii saying it like it it. All Doubts Cleared my Friends.
A. From Hawaii’s official Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country“ (applies to adopted children).
B. A parent may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital of birth under HRS 338-5.
C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the Hawaiian birth certificate.
D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, HRS 338-17.
E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.
F. Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program. From its web site: “In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.”
Now that we all understand that you can be born in Madagascar, Russia, Norway, Brazil or even Kenya like Obama and still have a REAL birth certificate that both Snopes and Factcheck would say was real since they are real. That doesn’t mean you were born in Hawaii. Does this matter to America?
Barack Obama has as of November 27th 2008 spent over$500,000 U.S. to prevent others from seeing it. Why? Didn’t he already win the vote?
Please don’t bring up Snopes (link) that says THEYVE SEEN Obama’s birth certificate and it is the one on his site called Fight the Smears. That is just plain garbage as it has a 2007 border and doesn’t list the hospital, Dr. or place of birth! Plus they say they’ve seen his real birth certificate (you know the one that we the people aren’t allowed to see) .
All of the people born in Korea, Kenya, Mongolia, Australia and who also have Hawaiian birth certificates also have REAL birth certificates.
This does not mean they were born in Hawaii. Get it?

The following is what Obama has on his site as his real birth certificate authenticated by Snopes and Factcheck. Hmmm – 2007 borders, no info on original at all? What’s wrong with this picture? Yes it is a real birth certificate, so are the tens of thousands of other birth certificates given to people born in other countries.

Please don’t bring up Fact Check either (link) as they and Snopes can literally LOOK AT the thousands and thousands of birth certificates in Hawaii from people born in Korea, Australia, Germany and even Kenya like Barack Obama! They are all REAL and Authentic birth certificates, but that doesn’t mean Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Snopes and FactCheck aren’t lying when they say the 2007 birth certificate on Obama’s site is real. So are the thousands and thousands of birth certificates in Hawaii from people born in Korea, Australia, Germany and even Kenya like Barack Obama! They are all REAL and Authentic birth certificates, but that doesn’t mean they or Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. (Document currently on Obama’s site is a forgery though. I’m sure the Factcheck one that America may not see is real – just like all of the others?)
This is the whole point my friends. That is why many of us are incensed that Obama is about to become the President and may not even Constitutionally qualify to be one!
This is unacceptable to every American who understands that Hawaii issues birth certificates to those born in foreign nations.
Yes – it is a proven fact that Hawaii grants birth certificates to people born in other nations! If you or I want a copy, they produce the document that you see on Obama’s site. Why then many ask does Obama currently have a forgery on his site? Another mystery that needs to be answered. That is NOT the one that has what we need to see to have Obama become President of the United States.
To become President of the United States one must meet 3 criteria.
- You must be 35 years of Age
- You must be a resident for 14 years
- You must be a natural born citizen – this is the one that someone born outside of the United States would obviously spend hundreds of thousands $$ to prevent us from seeing his birth certificate, just as Barack Obama has done. Hint Hint.
What is Barack Obama Hiding? Can anyone answer the question as to where and what hospital he was born in?
Time is ticking and it looks like all hope is on the Supreme Court on Friday when they review a case before them designed to force Obama to release his birth certificate. December 5th 2008 is the deadline for them to meet.
No One Checks these People’s backgrounds at all?
There is in fact NO ONE that checks. That is part of the lawsuits before the Supreme Court against the DNC as well as Obama. All they do is ask the state of birth if they have a real birth certificate on file and what the date of birth is. That is ALL! This is the whole point of the matter.
Other candidates for Presidency in 2008 NOT Qualified
We even had other candidates run for the Presidency in minor parties like this guy – who ran for President against Obama and McCain but WAS BORN IN NICARAGUA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3ger_Calero
Understand that there is no one that makes sure like a national HR dept that candidates are qualified. Róger Calero was the Socialist Workers Party Candidate.
He Ran and no one checked on his background either
Róger Calero was also arrested for felonies – another reason that he should not have even been allowed to even run for the Presidency in America. FACT. By the way he (Róger Calero) was on the ballot in five states, where he received 7,209 votes. Coupled with the 2,618 votes received in the five states where Harris was on the ballot, the Socialist Workers Party received 9,827 votes. No one checked his qualifications either. No one does!
We need to see Obama’s ’sealed’ birth certificate to clear all of the lies.
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Betsy Tacchella | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
You might want to check out Philip Berg’s site http://www.obamacrimes.com. You can watch a video that tells how the birth certificate at Facts.org is NOT an official birth certificate but rather a certification of birth. They are different. And…that document has been shown to be a fake. Check it out. Expert testimony is given as to why. I also hope you’re following that the case has been accepted by Judge Thomas of the Supreme court to be discussed Friday, Dec. 5th.
American Patriot | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
If he has nothing to hide.
Why is he hiding it?
terry | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
Well put together, thanks. Keep spreading the word!
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NoObama | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
But Hawaii said he has a real birth certificate as does Snopes and Factcheck. Yes they all have real birth certificates, all of the thousands of people born in foreign nations like Obama that ALSO have real birth certs in Hawaii. This as the article points out doesn’t mean Obama or they were born in Hawaii. Scandal galore and Obama can be sent to prison if the Supreme Court goes after him.
This is on Digg but I’m sure as always they will bury it being the eye-closed site that it is becoming. Facts scare these people so much.
http://digg.com/politics/Hospitals_in_Hawaii_to_Obama_You_Were_Not_Born_Here
Jason | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
Um… even if he was born outside the US, his mother is American. So he’s still a natural citizen.
Edward Wilson | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
The best source of information on the net on Obama and the lawsuits:
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
Michael B | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
It doesn’t make sense that our government agencies couldn’t catch this. We can catch a gnat farting if we want to, but we can’t find out the real birth place of someone who was elected by the popular vote as well as the electoral college. I don’t think Obama has enough pull to ‘pull one over the people’ like our current administration…
Monica | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
The fact that some of you voted for a candidate you hardly knew says a lot about your instability.
level headed | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
The conspiracy runs SO DEEP, they even planted the announcement of his birth in a Hawaiian newspaper!
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Obama_1961_birth_announcement_from_Honolulu_Advertiser_2?OTC-kff
I can only hope 10% of you apologize…
booksnmore4you | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
§622-57 Availability of medical records.
(a) If a patient of a health
care provider as defined in section 671-1, requests copies of the
patient’s medical records, the copies shall be made available to the
patient unless, in the opinion of the health care provider, it would
be detrimental to the health of the patient to obtain the records. If
the health care provider is of the opinion that release of the
records to the patient would be detrimental to the health of the
patient, the health care provider shall advise the patient that
copies of the records will be made available to the patient’s
attorney upon presentation of a proper authorization signed by the
patient.
(b) If an attorney for a patient asks a health care provider for
copies of the patient’s medical records and presents a proper
authorization from the patient for the release of the information,
complete and accurate copies of the records shall be given to the
attorney within a reasonable time not to exceed ten working days.
(c) In the case of a deceased person, a personal representative of
the deceased person’s estate may obtain copies of or may authorize
the health care provider to release copies of the deceased person’s
medical records upon presentation of proper documentation showing the
personal representative’s authority.
If no personal representative has been appointed, the deceased
person’s next of kin in order of superseding priority, without court
order, may obtain copies of or may authorize the health care provider
to release copies of the deceased person’s medical records, except as
otherwise provided in this subsection and subsections (d) and (e). A
deceased person’s next of kin possesses superseding priority when all
kin ranked higher in the order listed in the definition of “deceased
person’s next of kin” are deceased or incapacitated. When there are
multiple persons at the same level of superseding priority, all such
persons shall be entitled to request and obtain the records. The
person claiming to be next of kin of a deceased person and requesting
the deceased person’s medical records shall submit to the medical
provider from whom the records are requested, an affidavit attesting
to status as next of kin with superseding priority. The medical
provider may rely upon the affidavit, and in so doing, shall be
immune to any claims relating to release of the medical records.
(d) Notwithstanding applicable state confidentiality laws governing
the following types of specially protected health information, a
health care provider may honor, in whole or in part, a request by the
deceased person’s next of kin for release of medical records if the
medical records of the deceased person contain references pertaining
to any of the following types of specially protected health
information:
(1) HIV infection, AIDS, or AIDS-related complex;
(2) Diagnosis or treatment of a mental illness; or
(3) Participation in a substance abuse treatment
program.
(e) A health care provider shall refuse a request by the deceased
person’s next of kin for release of medical records if the deceased
person had previously indicated to the medical provider in writing
that the person did not wish to have medical records released to next
of kin.
(f) Notwithstanding subsections (c) through (e), any medical records
of a deceased person may be produced pursuant to a court order
specifically compelling release.
(g) Reasonable costs incurred by a health care provider in making
copies of medical records shall be borne by the requesting person.
(h) For the purposes of this section:
“Deceased person’s next of kin” means a person with the following
relationship to the deceased person:
(1) The spouse or reciprocal beneficiary;
(2) An adult child;
(3) Either parent;
(4) An adult sibling;
(5) A grandparent; and
(6) A guardian at the time of death.
“Personal representative” shall have the meaning provided in section
560:1-201. [L 1976, c 219, §15; am L 1984, c 150, §1; am L 2004, c
192, §1]
From http://www.lamblawoffice.com/Hawaii.pdf and http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/medical-records/hawaii/
ahrcanum | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
That was a fair amount of work in posting the links and info. Intersting.
Ed Darrell | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
1. Were Obama born outside the U.S., under U.S. law he is still a “natural-born U.S. citizen” for the purposes of Article II of the Constitution — as is John McCain (who WAS born outside the U.S.), and as were George Romney and Barry Goldwater, two other candidates who were born outside the country (Romney) or not in a state (Goldwater was born in the Arizona Territory, prior to statehood).
2. If the birth occurred outside of Hawaii, then the State of Hawaii’s Certificate of Live Birth would state so. It doesn’t.
3. Newspapers from Honolulu in 1961 confirm the birth in Honolulu. Now, either Barack Obama is Jesus resurrected and able to manipulate newspapers when he was just days old, or he was born in Honolulu.
4. Nothing you allege against the birth certificate is backed up by affidavits, let alone hard evidence to suggest any problem with the document.
You can’t prove your birth certificate isn’t a fake, the same way you challenge Obama. That’s not the issue. The issue is, what does the State of Hawaii say? They say born in Honolulu, and they’ve been consistent in that statement for more than 47 years.
Finally, why in the world would any hospital confirm to you something held in records 47 years ago? It’s telling that you offer no link to support that claim, but instead links to the hospital websites. You’re counting on people looking at the links and thinking they back your case, when they do no such thing.
You’ve got not an iota of evidence to support any of your claims. Shame on you.
Freedom | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
Continual updates on Birth Certificate Scandal
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/birthcertificate/index
breeze | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
From a post on one petition site– http://rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis –
(contributor’s name not provided)
“BHO/Barry Soetoro was born at The Coast Provincial General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya, located in Coast Province, at 7:24 p.m. on August 4th, 1961. The official documents from this institution are certified, embossed, and bear witness signatures.
BHO/Barry Soetoro, etc. is not a U.S. citizen and never has been.
He’s a fraud, a fake, a liar, an imposter, and a socialist.
I anticipate seeing the U.S. Military arrest him and remove him from OUR Oval Office, in handcuffs.”
admin | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
booksnmore4you – They’re making a whole video presentation of both the audio as well as video taken I’ve been told. They’ve been advised to include it all for legal reasons which will really upset a few people. I understand that this enterprising group has a few people who agreed to give info on condition of anonymity. I see problems arising when they release it all but that’s life. Some very interesting conversations you’ll see and hear. I’ve seen a few of them.
One thing peculiar is still all of this drama and all Obama has to do is just let people see his birth certificate.
Level headed – well if all of these people are correct in that Obama just had to be born in America I would think calling the newspaper to add a birth announcement far easier than figuring out the rest. Things such as knowing that Hawaii does issue birth certificates to people born in other nations. To be all the way in Kenya and just have to get a birth registered in America smacks of a plan as I see it. Also to know that one can seal it and not allow anyone access, and at the same time travel to Hawaii and the very next week have Hawaii issue a statement that the birth certificate is real. As all foreign birth certificates are in Hawaii. See anything wrong with this picture?
To date Hawaii has NOT said that Barack was born in Hawaii. Only that he like so many others born in other nations has an authentic Hawaiian birth certificate.
Are you catching on yet? Seems simple to me -and all of this can just go poof. All Obama has to do is release it. So simple and as I see it there are only two possibilities then.
1. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii but is one really dense individual that is not worthy of being President. To spend so much $ to fight having his birth certificate seen? Ridiculous of the man! In case after case all over the country his only defense is citizens have no right to see it or challenge him as a candidate. That worked with Federal Court but it will now be reviewed by the Supreme Court on Dec 5th. Who else can challenge this and force him to show it? Since on it it will say place of birth, hospital as well as Dr. that delivered, and religion of parents.
Want to make a bet?
Possiblillity number 2 – He was born in Kenya and will never willingly let anyone see his birth certificate. Only the copy let out to the public with the 2007 borders. Wrong year! He knows if he dares show the document he may very well not be President and the author of this article is correct.
Either way choice 1 or 2 Obama really shouldn’t be President.
Freedom – Excellent Link, I’ll be following to keep up with it all. All of the political junkies here have me diving into the topic as well.
admin | Dec 2, 2008 | Reply
Ed Wilson has it right, this link here is incredibly helpful when it comes to Obama and the birth certificate drama unfolding before our eyes.
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
NoObama | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Hey take a look at this. Ads are going up everywhere. This is all or nothing for this guy.
He has to get into office to do damage or perish as he just committed the biggest fraud in American history. Raising hundreds of millions of dollars illegally and under false pretenses is a federal crime. He can be in Prison in 2009!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82523
I feel ashamed that so many people on his side really don’t want to see it. As if blind and stupid they want to just trust someone who may be an illegal alien to become President. No damned way. Lets see the document. End this nonsense Barack. Let us see it. As American Thinker said what can be the downside of letting the public see it?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/why_the_barack_obama_birth_cer.html
breeze | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Ed,
The grandparents can go to the registrar’s office and simply state that the child was born in Hawaii and the same certificate is issued. Likewise, they will accept a newspaper clipping as proof good enough for that particular document. In this instance, that particular document may or may not actually exist, as the one provided on the web is a forgery as proven by more than one expert examiner who can back up their claims when it is demanded they do so by a tough and doubting critic. At any rate, if it does indeed exist, it still is not a “birth certificate,” in the real sense of the word. It is one that may be issued up to one year after birth to anyone whose parents claim to have been resident in HI for one year previously. McCain’s BC was presented, and it has been said that perhaps Obama and Hillary lead the charge to accept it (even though there were some other possible snafus for him) because they both discussed and agreed upon the fact that he was “beatable,” then, of course, we know that the big 0 took care of Hillary! BTW, the appointment to the Secy of State job is also UNCONSTITUTIONAL…so far he’s battin’ 1000! Total disrespect for the Supreme Law of the Land. Just like many of us on here and the rest of us “tinfoil hat-wearers” have suspected all along, he’ll likely try to rewrite the Constitution to suit himself since he already (apparently) figures it’s just an old piece of paper. He’s smart, gotta give him that–he WAS a Constitutional scholar and attorney, right? Anyway, this is the MO of the countries that George Soros buys…”Change” “Hope” “Yes We Can” …change the Constitution, abolish congress, ruin the economy (check Venezuela’s inflation rate under Chavez), be “President for Life!” or at least until 2021, if you’re Chavez. Regardless of whether the people are again voting for another type of “Change.” The bigger problem with BHO is that his buddies have been at this for years, he’s got Soros and the rest of the Glabalists behind him (the US is BIG FISH!!), oh yeah, then there are all those statements in his own books about how he will “stand with his Muslim brothers…” His classmates and teachers at the Indonesian school proclaim he was a very devout Muslim. OOPS…
breeze | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Level-headed (or pointy, as the case may be…) Please see my previous post. What makes you think you need proof to run that ad? In any event, it was run 4 days after his birth and maybe the grandparents ran it to prepare for their daughter and baby’s homecoming? Do you know there is currently (yet another) lawsuit, this time regarding intent to defraud by BHO’s mother? Maya was born in Jakarta, Indonesia, suppsedly, but mom rushed back to the US, just as she did for BHO. For someone who was so anti-American, raised by Communists too, she sure did want to make sure her kids were seen as AMERICAN. At least when it was convenient.
Informed | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
The hard left is far more dangerous than traditional, family-oriented, believers of small government, low taxes, enforced borders, endorsers of English as our national language and protectors of our culture righties could ever be. It’s decent, religious, hard working, America lovers that made this country great not a make believe created character bolstered by foreign money, Hollywood morons and youth indoctrinated by Communist in our colleges.
Obama is unvetted, unqualified, unprepared, unworthy and would not pass a security clearance preliminary background check to be a security guard in DC with his radical supporters, friends, colleagues and financial backers like Wright, Ayers and Rezko not to mention Khalidi. The far left is to blame for doing this horrible sin against America by cheating and pushing this unknown man into office. The left has destroyed America much more sinisterly than any terrorist interrogation or monitored phone call from them ever has.
The leftist and communists destroyed America. Liberal policies gave loans to illegals and the unqualified. Then democrats took pay offs to ignore the graft and policies that were sure to ruin America became standard procedure. Follow the money trail if you want to see who is behind the economy meltdown. Bush has just been President during a really dangerous and bad time.
Obama is surrounded by bad men and corrupt people and Chicago corrupt politics made him. He is not what he appears to be. He is a carefully packaged fake who has sealed his records and his past. WE HAVE BEEN DUPED!
Daman conners | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
This is a great article about an ad taken out ( link below) in Chicago Tribune. It says it all.
“Mr. Obama is respectfully requested to direct the Hawaiian officials to provide access to his original birth certificate on December 5-7 by our team of forensic scientists, and to provide additional documentary evidence establishing his citizenship status prior to our Washington, D.C. press conference on December 8,” the foundation says. PolitiFact has said it has no reason to doubt the authenticity of the document.Among other complaints, the foundation charges:
-that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet an “unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited, computer-generated birth form created in 2007″
-the Hawaii Dept of Health won’t confirm Obama’s assertion that you were born in Hawaii (the director of Hawaii’s Department of Health on Oct. 31 personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.)
-there are legal affidavits stating Obama was actually born in Kenya
-Obama’s grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended your birth in Kenya.
-In 1965, Obama’s mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and her son had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen.
We the People is in the process of choosing the forensic scientists who would travel to Hawaii to examine Obama’s original birth certificate, if Obama directs Hawaiian officials to provide it. The group estimates costs will be about $20,000 to successfully complete the task, and they need money. Any donors out there?
The birth certificate issue is like this annoying itch that just won’t go away. During the campaign, the Obama camp tried to stamp out the rumors by posting information – and the birth certificate – on its Fight the Smears site. But that apparently hasn’t stopped the rumor mill.
A Kentucky truck driver last week filed a demand that Obama prove he is a natural-born U.S. citizen. Daniel John Essek, 47, wants the former Illinois senator to provide a copy of his birth certificate to a federal judge in London for verification.
“I may very well be chasing windmills thinking they’re monsters,” Essek told the Lexington Herald-Leader.
A Pennsylvania judge threw out a pre-election court challenge to the citizenship issue, saying its arguments were frivolous. Other similar lawsuits have also been filed.
Right Side News on Sunday so graciously pointed out that “Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth. This is not proof of where the child was born. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year.”
This Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court judges will conference. It’s expected the question of whether Obama is actually eligible to become the next president will come up. If four of the nine justices vote to hear the case, brought by Leo C. Donofrio against the New Jersey secretary of state, oral argument may be scheduled.
You know the Internet is going to be abuzz with activity surrounding Friday’s conference. We’ll try to sift through the sludge and bring you the facts.
UPDATE: Here’s my Q&A with We The People Foundation Chairman Bob Schulz:
Q.) Why don’t you believe that the Hawaiian authorities have vouched for the authenticity of the birth certificate filed with that state for President-elect Obama? The state’s Department of Health director on Oct. 31 released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Obama’s birth certificate. DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
A.) Yes, Hawaii officials have publicly verified that they possess Obama’s original birth certificate, however in their official press release they fail to state it is an original birth certificate from Hawaii.
In fact, under Hawaiian law, a foreign born child can be registered as a naturalized (but not “natural born”) U.S. citizen following application of the parents, (See, Hawaiian law provides for registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. ). Such persons would be eligible to receive a “Certification of Live Birth” from the state, such as the document Obama has proffered. “Naturalized” citizens, such as the Governor of California, cannot hold the office of President.
This of course, does not resolve the thornier issue as to the content of Obama’s birth document. Specifically the stated “place of birth” may not in fact reflect the physical location of Obama’s birth (as evidenced by the “original” certificate of Live Birth claimed to be in the possession of Hawaii officials), but rather the local Hawaii residency of the U.S. parent claimed in a birth registration application such as that provided by HRS 338-17.8 (See above). In any event the document is simply a computer-created document based upon the entries in a computer database, which may have been conceivably tampered with at some point.
Hawaii law also provides for “amending” birth certificates. From the official web page: “Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country.”
In short, the document proffered by Obama does not contain all the information needed to conclusively verify that he is legally eligible to hold the Office of President.
Additionally, beyond their refusal to minimally confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii, state officials also refuse to comment on the authenticity of Obama’s birth document.
All these questions could be resolved by Obama by simply providing access to his original birth certificate.
Q.) What reputable sources have discredited the birth certificate already produced by Obama?
A.) Attorney Phil Berg states in his lawsuit against Obama, “…three (3) independent Document Forensic Experts performed extensive Forensic testing on the Certificate of Live Birth posted on Obama’s campaign website.”
He has not publicly identified his sources but one of them is reported to be a reputable professional forensics expert going under the pseudonym “Polarik” for his family’s protection. His latest comprehensive report concluding Obama’s document is a forgery can be found here. He has also posted a short YouTube video.
Q.) How much did you pay for these 2 full-page ads (on Dec. 1 and 3)?
A.) Tens of thousands of dollars. It was a negotiated amount.
Q.) What sort of reaction have you received so far to the ads?
A.) We have experienced significant media interest from primarily talk shows and newspapers, including some well-known media entities. We have hoped that our ads would spur public debate on this topic and hopefully, this may have begun.
In the end, there is no practical reason why Obama refuses to produce his original birth certificate. He is seeking the Office of President and has a duty to provide evidence that he meets the explicit requirements established by the Constitution.
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http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/01/obama-birth-certificate-rears-its-ugly-head-again/?icid=200100397×1214538524x1200944314
Informed | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Obama is unvetted, unqualified, unprepared, unworthy and would not pass a security clearance preliminary background check to be a security guard in DC with his radical supporters, friends, colleagues and financial backers like Wright, Ayers and Rezko not to mention Khalidi. The far left is to blame for doing this horrible sin against America by cheating and pushing this unknown man into office. The left has destroyed America much more sinisterly than any terrorist interrogation or monitored phone call from them ever has.
Sammy The Bull (not that guy) | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
I advise all Americans to bribe any hospital official especially at the two hospitals that Obama says he was born in. If they can roast Joe the Plumber, I’m sure even more people at those two hospitals will talk. Maybe give copies!!!! I will donate $100,000 dollars if your copy proves to be Barack’s original.
Cara | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
The birth certificate as shown on Factcheck.org is truly a FORGERY!!!
Please look at the comprehensive proof here:
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
PentaPal | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
His mother is American..so he is American.
I wasn’t born in America and I am American..served in the military ( Royal and American)…no I’m not from Britain), have a birth certificate in another language, speak 5 languages, Dad who is not from the US and a Mother from Puerto Rico..a common wealth.
I am legally American by birth, because of my mother. I currently work for the goverment and have top secret clearence. You people are very very very ignorant and need to stop crying.
pick up a book and learn something.
Your “proof” is remedial.
Obama debunked | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Her is your “proof” PentaPal and all of you others saying “His mother was a US citizen so that makes him a US citizen” Not according to the law at the time;
Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. Citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. Citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. For the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. To transmit U.S. Citizenship to the child.
Source;http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.HTML
Those of you saying Stanley Ann was 19 when he was born are incorrect, she was 18 and unable to pass on her citizenship to BO.
Source; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
She didn’t turn 19 until Nov. Of 1961 and BO was born in August.
GARY ROSE | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Why Why are NEWSPAPERS and any other Public Broadcasting Companies by LAW ? Keeping the AMERICAN PUBLIC INFORMED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY? THIS HUSH HUSH MEDIA AND NEWS WORTHY INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC?CANT THESE NEWS AGENCIES BE SUED FOR SUPPRESSING THE NEWS FROM AMERICANS OR ANYBODY?THEY DID A FINE JOB ONTHE CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT OF U.S.A.AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION? IT SEEMS THE PUBLIC ONLY GETS THE NEWS ALL THESE NEWS GIANTS WANT US TO SEE?SOMEBODY NEEDS PRISON TIME AND LARGE FINES FOR DOING THIS TO AMERICA AND AMERICAN PEOPLE?>>>>>>>>>AN AMERICAN>>>JUST WONDERING>>THANKS>>
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
I stand corrected. The birth certificate that Obama currently has on his site is a complete and proven forgery.
Supreme Court make a move on this guy, force him to supply you a copy or we will be in major trouble come January.
Santa Helper | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Being a mother of children in the 60’s and 70’s, you, yourself notify your local newspapers of the birth of your children if you so desire unless it is a birth announcement offered by your hospital.
The so-called BHO was not a hospital announcement of the births during that particular week or month, etc. it was a personal announcement.
To this day you can still announce the birth of your child for free even in the Washington Post.
It also appears that his mother was still a citizen of Indonesia when she died here. His mother knew the art of milking both sides of the cow to their advantage.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Pentapal – that is not the law. If he was born in Kenya in Mombasa Coastal Hospital (Where Kenya has frozen his file. Think why he would have a file in a hospital in Kenya from the 1960s)then being the son of a Kenyan citizen and a 19 year old former American married to the Kenyan, IS NOT a natural born US citizen.
Man Overboard | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
It matters to you and me, but no one else. The liberal media will just excuse away something so petty as a violation of the constitution.
The law will be changed to suit Barack Obama – he is our savior after all isn’t he?
KeK | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Yes, because an infant obviously has some evil master plans to take over America… All planned from the womb. He told them to put his birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper so that 47 years later he could be President and destroy us all… But really good job on attempting to prove your point, it took a lot of effort.
Al | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Somehow I don’t think the FBI would allow an imposter to pose as the next President of the United States of America, so until the FBI has some issues with Mr. Obama’s eligibility to serve as president this matter is closed.
Deborah | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Does anyone know when the video will be posted showing people from Hawaii saying Obama was not born in Hawaii? Time is so short! We need to work on Hillary too as according to the Constitution she is not qualified for Sec. of State.
mcnorman | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Due to HIPAA regulations, Obama can and will avoid producing a legitimate vault copy of his birth certificate, school records, etc.
What on earth could be so devastating or earth shattering?
mcnorman | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
HIPAA refers to the medical records, but why the secrecy surrounding school? Financial aid under a different name? Possibly. Under foreign student status? Possible.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Daman Conners and the college Republicans want to release it now and are lining up interviews at this moment. So far lots of radio spots as well as newspaper interviews and one FOX rep seems interested for one of the political shows. Not surprisingly no requests from CNN, or the NY Times or other ultra-biased left wing news sources. Any doubts on NY Times you can see their bias ooze daily by going to http://www.timeswatch.org they really are so bad that a whole site is needed to show how they lie and make up the news and distort facts.
Santa Helper | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
His mother or grandmother most likely ran the birth announcement because Hawaii was the last place where they last had family, friends, went to school, etc. to announce that she and his father had a child.
It is irrelevant to where he was actually born.
The main point is that BHO believes that his life and background are no ones business and that he is supremely above everyone else in this country. As the potential leader of this country he feels that he can pick and choose what he wants to reveal because it is convenient to promote himself.
Santa Helper | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
He was know as Barry Soretoro (?) when he lived in Indonesia after he was adopted (a questionable citizen before the adoption, definitely not a citizen after that), he has also been know as Barry Dunham. There were several other also, I wonder how many more names in addition to that and what the purpose was?
GARY ROSE | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THIS NOT BE NUMBER 1 ON THE SUPREME COURTS AGENDA ARE THEY CONTROLLED BY SOMEBODY ALSO?WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT A CASHIER AT A HAMBURGER JOINT DONT THINK?THIS I SAY AGAIN AND AGAIN IS THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? COME ON NOW LETS GET SOME KIND OF SERIOUS NO JOKE?THIS CONCERNS AMERICA OUR COUNTRY.LETS NOT MAKE A JOKE OUT OF AMERICA? AN AMERICAN>>>>THANKS YOU>>>>>>
Larry | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Do you really want to have the election overturned? Considering the incredible bag of shit that the George W. Bush administration is handing to the next President, it might just be the Republicans that have planted this Kenyan sleeper in our midst.
Keep up the good work. Your diligence has uncovered a story that the resources of the entire Republican party couldn’t even with the entire Justice Department at their disposal.
Sadly, I am convinced that there will never be sufficient evidence to move you away from your delusions and fear. If you don’t know who Barack Obama is then you are cultivating an ignorance that is able to withstand all contrary evidence. I have to realize that there are some people who will never accept any contrary evidence.
The good news is that Barack Obama will be your President to so when you return to Earth your country will be on the mend from the disastrous Bush administration.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
For those not following the latest the Supreme Court has a crack at this on Friday December 5th.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Hey this is funny over at Digg, that crazy left wing site people who comment in support are being banned and prevented from making comments.
http://digg.com/politics/Hospitals_in_Hawaii_to_Obama_You_Were_Not_Born_Here
Check out the ones blanked out they are the good ones. Digg does it again. LMAO at those pitiful creatures. The left is doing its best to stop anyone from knowing but it is too late.
Just go to the digg page in this message to see how the media in general operates. The juicy parts are covered up and complaints lodged and the idiot answers like ‘Well Snopes says its real’ is what is left. This gives the impression that Hawaii actually said that Barack was born there which is false. All Hawaii said was that they saw his original on file and it is authentic. Just as authentic as the thousands of others born in other nations who have ‘authentic and real’ birth certificates from Hawaii.
This is the fall of America, the media doing all it can to hide the truth. Then they wonder why less and less people read the NY Times or watch CNN.
Chiyome | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
If what you are saying is true, several laws have been broken. First of all the federal privacy act prevents all of these hospitals from releasing the information you are claiming they released to you.
Secondly, you have admitted you bribed them to release this information. This is also a felony.
Our office is forwarding this information to the Hawaii Attorney General’s office Mark Bennett for investigation.
Chiyome- state of Hawaii Department of Health
Treece | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
I agree Gary Rose. Why is this not top priority! Obama is in the process of getting top secret information. Wouldn’t the CIA or FBI homeland security investigate him. Why does it even have to go to the supreme court?
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Chiyome – EXCELLENT! That is what we want! We want to be sued by Obama and Hawaii so that in Discovery we can force Obama’s birth certificate into the public eye and get rid of him.
Our college republicans in Hawaii did their patriotic duty and at least they didn’t go after a regular citizen like Joe the Plumber for just asking Obama a question. Last time I looked his whole life was illegally thrown into the media.
Do the American people deserve to know the truth in this matter – as we say in the military ‘Fuckin A.’ Excuse the language but your tone is ridiculous and America must know.
Please Hawaii sue us! Please Pretty please. Obama sue us, please pretty please.
I will gladly risk imprisonment along with the writer to get the truth out.
Willard | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
This smells of BS to me. Anyone can say they found or discovered anything.. Remember that whole African Press International fiasco where they said they had a tape of Michelle Obama admitting Barack wasn’t born here.. all BS. They kept saying over and over, tape to be released soon, in negotiations, yadda, yadda, yadda… in the age of YouTube, if the tape was real (or video in this case), it could be put on the Internet in five minutes. None of this, here is a carrot, wait for our proof games.
There has been so much BS about this story going around, I am starting to think that 4Chan hackers are just playing everyone. Is this their new project chanology stunt?
KeK | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
What is it exactly that you think Obama is going to do!?!?!? I really don’t understand your purpose in this other than that it seem you have a personal vendetta against him. What is your fear, that he will turn the country into a dictatorship because he may have been born in another country? I am pretty sure, if not positive, that the CIA and FBI have many more resources than you possibly could and they allowed him to rise this far. I realize that corruption is not unheard of but come on… Seriously come on… Stop trying to find small details wrong with him because of, well, who knows what the reasons are, you still haven’t told me exactly what the problem here is if he was born outside of the country but still is a natural citizen… I can think of an infinite number of things that political figures have done that are far more dangerous to our society than an ambiguous birth certificate. Go see the documentary flow, and focus all this energy on solving the real problems of our country.
Bobby | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Americans have become so utterly useless in defending the Constitution and their heritage, a heritage thousands of our ancestors have fought for, that they deserve to lose the freedoms that others gave their lives for. Shame on us.
Of course, to many liberals, Obama’s citizenship, or any thing else about him that might be found unsavory, is a moot point. For lunatic liberals, all that mattered in the 08 election is that someone without a white skin was elected. Now there’s open mindedness for you.
Dave | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Chiyome – put me on the jury and it’s not guilty, also a medal for preventing this country to be led by a foreign power.
alkie 1 | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
geez,sean hannity has you people so screwed up till its not even funny. I sincerely see that racism still exist and you had 400plus years and a 40 plus presidential headstart and you still not happy and you wonder why the rest of the world hates us. so after you realize you chasing windmills what will you complain about next,grow up! he won fair and square and you racist mofo’s want to kill him because he’s black when you got gwb f’n up the country so bad that mexicans are sneaking back into mexico. thanks a lot white people for once again making everybody else remember your the superior race and without you nothing is possible and nothing in life or on earth has ever been created by anybody that wasn’t white. so go on and kill the man and start a civil war because i’m ready……
ironhide | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Actually the Supreme Court will not be discussing the case – what will be decided is if they will even bother discussing the case. Please try to be accurate.
Frustrated | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
I have forwarded hundreds of articles, etc. about this Constitutional Crisis to the GOP… Begging for Some Action…
Begging for some response…
NOTHING!!!
We Need A New (Agressive & Real) Conservative Party!!!
Joe Thunder | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Hi, I’m Joe Thunder FreedomMarch.org founder. We’re having an event on Fri at SCOTUS.
Please contact me.
Ed Darrell | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Oddly, not one of those “experts” has had the guts to go see the document they call fake. In the legal trade, we call experts like that by a particular legal name: Frauds and quacks.
I’ll wager not one of them can qualify as a document expert under the Daubert rules.
Shame on them. Shame on you for being so gullible. Shame on you for joining in their spreading of this calumny.
The anti-Obama boards sound an awful lot like a convention of migrating waterfowl, ducks and loons.
Deborah | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Senator Martinez says it doesn’t matter if Obama is not a legal citizen…read article below.
http://patdollard.com/2008/12/republican-senator-mel-martinez-it-doesnt-matter-whether-or-not-obama-is-a-citizen/
He claims it’s the responsibility of the people to vet the candidates yet he stands with the court that said Berg had no standing to question Obama’s citizenship! Mr. Martinez has the mental capacity of a second grader. The only thing he can relate to is free citizenship for all Hispanics, free everything for all Hispanics and be damned the Constitution of the United States of America and her sovereignty! Erase the borders and come one, come all. Beyond that his brain goes on tilt. Reading his letter you can see he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and cannot make up his mind what he thinks. We should pass this letter around the internet to everyone possible! It’s up to us to win this battle for our country!
And to whomever asked if we really wanted Obama removed for not being a legal citizen…THE ANSWER IS YES! He claims he taught Constitutional law so why doesn’t he know he isn’t qualified? The answer is he does know it! And if he thinks our Constitution should be ignored so he can be President, where will he stop? Look at this background. Look at his closest associates. That should concern every real American!
Ed Darrell | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
The major newspapers ran the records of Hawaii births from records from the state government. All babies born in the state were listed in the legal announcements section.
Not fraud. Contemporaneous business record. If the courthouse with the record burned down, this newspaper would suffice.
And in contradiction, what do the critics offer? “We haven’t looked at the documents, but we’re sure they’re forged. We haven’t bothered to get affidavits, but we know a cousin who knows a guy who talked to someone who claims Obama’s Kenyan Grandmother said he was born in Kenya.”
And if he was born in Kenya, he’s still a U.S. citizen, natural-born for the sake of the Constitution, because his mother was an American citizen.
So, what’s the kick? Got documents? Where are they? Obama’s is on the internet. Yours are . . . lost in Kenya? Lost in Indonesia? Adrift in the Pacific? In any case, nowhere to be seen.
David | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
By some of us you mean the most votes any candidate has ever received in history right? Cuz I’m sure that’s what you meant…Man I bet the “real” America didn’t vote for him…You know, the minority of the population that supposedly represents the majority.
David | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Wow…you are warped aministrator…The discovery would not release the birth certificate because that would not be the focus of the lawsuit. Oh, and he is not talking about you being sued, he is talking about charges being brought against you for illegally trying to obtain private medical files. In a case deciding whether you attempted to obtain medical records illegally the referred to medical records would not be released. Your ignorance is astounding
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
David – I am not the author and publishing the material and giving it an outlet doesn’t seem to be so illegal. I will publish it all including the video and the media and Obama be damned.
In the current case about to be reviewed before the Supreme Court the Supreme Court can most certainly force Obama to release his birth certificate. That is just a fact.
As said earlier there are only two possibilities and they are –
1. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii but is one really dense individual that is not worthy of being President. To spend so much $ to fight having his birth certificate seen? Ridiculous of the man! In case after case all over the country his only defense is citizens have no right to see it or challenge him as a candidate. That worked with Federal Court but it will now be reviewed by the Supreme Court on Dec 5th. Who else can challenge this and force him to show it? Since on it it will say place of birth, hospital as well as Dr. that delivered, and religion of parents.
Want to make a bet?
Possiblility number 2 – He was born in Kenya and will never willingly let anyone see his birth certificate. Only the copy let out to the public with the 2007 borders. Wrong year! He knows if he dares show the document he may very well not be President and the author of this article is correct.
Either way choice 1 or 2 Obama really shouldn’t be President.
Freedom – Excellent Link, I’ll be following to keep up with it all. All of the political junkies here have me diving into the topic as well.
What you and others are still missing is Obama can just release it if he is a natural born citizen. Why the legal games. If there is nothing to hide as others have said, why is he hiding?
Also by the way the Hospitals in question have no record of Obama or Mother ever being there so there are no medical records to illegally obtain.
Again the American people want to know. Obama doesn’t want us to see it, Why do you think that is?
coffeegeek | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
actually, no. check this:
“Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States…”
Funny media Business | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
I just checked out that digg page listed above. I couldn’t believe it I tried to leave a comment that questioned Factcheck and they don’t even print it! is this not funny?
Try it yourself. It is the funniest and saddest thing you can ever see for Digg that it just wont allow anyone to put a difference of opinion.
http://digg.com/politics/Hospitals_in_Hawaii_to_Obama_You_Were_Not_Born_Here
See for yourself. Try to say anything logical or try to mention that Factcheck or Scopes say that all foreign birth certificates given to foreigners are also REAL.
I thought Digg was a reputable site. Guess I was wrong. My one day membership is over. Digg sucks.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
It’s true – try to make a comment that states any facts against Obama at that DIGG page for this article. It is a clear illustration of how they bury and even prevent anyone from knowing the truth. It is so scary that you can do it yourself like Funny Business said.
click this and see for yourself. Check your comment in 5 minutes and watch it vanish or never get printed. That is what we call censorship.
http://digg.com/politics/Hospitals_in_Hawaii_to_Obama_You_Were_Not_Born_Here
KeK | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
You complain about the censorship, yet you won’t let my comments pass through.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
I’m not going to publish the same BS. So if someone keeps repeating that Snopes says the birth cert is real without them reading the article and knowing that everyone’s birth certificate in Hawaii is real including those born in other nations, then why bother? That isn’t censorship as others have said the same thing without reading the article and seeing the Hawaii heath Dept. link that clearly shows that anyone born in Russia or Kenya like Obama will have real birth certificates that Snopes and Factcheck (both linked above in article) will say are real. Again this doesn’t mean they were born in Hawaii.
KeK | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
That wasn’t anything near what I was saying. What I originally said was that I was concerned about this situation when I first heard about it but upon reading further you have given me nothing except the fact that you don’t want to say he is a terrorist but essentially believe it. I never said anything about snopes. I want you to tell me why I should care at all, try and convince me. But by lying about what I am saying you are proving me that I am right about what I suspect you are saying. Once again, where the hell did I mention snopes? No where…
Amazing Jim | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
I just tried it at DIGG. They wont even print the comment. I never realized how bad they were until now. A good lesson in how the mainstream media operates. Try to prevent others from reading anything that differs from the Democratic party line.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Kek no offense but why should I bother to try to convince you of anything? I did not write the article and I’m sure the author wouldn’t waste his time trying to convince you of anything. They merely state facts.
Also everyone take note, on the video to be released supposedly in another day or so you will clearly see (a few times with hidden cameras) the hospital official saying that Obama and his mother were never in the hospital.
Not a shocker as we know he was born in Kenya just like the entire population of Kenya, and his family that was at his birth in Kenya.
Why else would he still be fighting you and I seeing it and have a forgery on his site even now?
KeK | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
What I am asking is why should it be important to me, why should I or anybody else care. I fail to see why it matters if he is a citizen. Is there a reason why I should care? I see all of the facts, I am not necessarily convinced that he was born here, but I see much more pressing issues that will directly affect us in the world of politics than this.
oh!please | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Spend energy on more imporant things you say.
If this were the case in your comments, you should of not even made these comments yourself. But you wanted to waste your energies here because it is something that you are pissed about that people have a right to speak there mind just like you did. But don’t start asking people to give up their right to speak or spin it as if they should worry about something else because its not what you like to hear. How do you know what the other person does in his/her time away from the computer that isn’t something great for the community, country, etc…Everyone has the right to speak….he/she did….you did….I did…..but don’t ask them to give up that right just because you don’t like their opinions on the subject matter.
Tom | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
ED, The only way he would be born out of country and still be considered a natural born citizen is if his parents were at the time active military serving overseas. Like John Mcain. And the reason this is even being debated is because his grandmother brought it up.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Kek – why the law should be important to you? Well if we throw out our Constitution then maybe someone can kill you at will, do to you as they please, deny you rights, tell you how and where to live and so on. This may not be important to some, but for most Americans I would say it is important.
We love our freedoms and what guarantees this freedom is the Constitution of the United States.
This document spells out who can become President of the US. There are 3 requirements which are 1. Resident of America for 14 yrs, 2. Natural born citizen, and 3. 35 years of age.
The Founders thought that a 35 year old and someone living here would be more loyal to America, as well as someone who is a natural born citizen.
This is our way so for you to tell me why it matters, well if it doesn’t matter to you you might as well move somewhere where rules and the law mean nothing then. Live in communist Cuba and enjoy being like an ant.
I prefer freedom and America.
Octaveoctave | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Admin, we on the Orly Taitz/Keyes legal team are very interested in getting ahold of you as soon as possible. Please contact us as soon as possible at orly.taitz at gmail dot com. Thank you.
KeK | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
oh!please, you are absolutely right, I was very upset with the fact that “admin” was reporting that I had said things that I shouldn’t have. I was never in any way asking people to give up what they care about. That is a part of the context you couldn’t have known.
I do feel however that I have been extremely polite and really just want to understand your point of views, as a student it is something that I am learning to do. I am also being taught to completely understand someones argument before I make a decision about it. Give me the respect of doing it in the polite manner that I have been attempting to do to you. Why should you try to convince me of anything? Convince was the wrong word. What I have been asking for is to understand, not argue, but understand the WHY. It is as simple as that. Thank you for giving me a concrete answer after several hours and ignored posts, sorry if I offended anyone by my desire to understand.
admin | Dec 3, 2008 | Reply
Kek – I understand. No problem on my end. Just understand that there are people who leave 30 comments in a row saying the exact same thing. It really is weird how ridiculous people can be.
Octaveoctave – I will be in touch tomorrow. Daman Conners and his college crew in Hawaii have lots of requests for interviews on radio and TV. I’m sure they can help you guys in some ways.
Marshall | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Something that I find funny, is that those staunch left-wingers keep referring to this issue as “republican” or “conservative” hype and propaganda, when the main legal case against Obama is actually by a democrat. Second off, I have yet to find a left-winger that could supply me with a good reason as to why Obama is resisting showing his vault birth certificate. That point has been thrown around quite a bit, but the ONLY reply I’ve seen to it, is that pathetic excuse for “proof” of citizenship Hawaii certificate, despite the fact that that is NOT his vault birth certificate. I don’t know why left-wingers are so thick, but it’s really quite laughable. When you read their arrogant and ignorant responses to the accusation, they’re all the same. They play it down as republican or conservative propaganda, yet none of them that I have seen, are even curious as to why Obama is resisting showing it. I’m not going to come out and say that without a doubt, his vault copy will prove his lack of proper citizenship, but anyone who isn’t completely brainwashed and biased has to at least be fair and answer the question as to why he’s resisting the accusation.
Cindy | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
From what I understand, BOTH parents have to be natural born citizens for a child to be considered natural born if born outside the US. He also renounced his citizenship (if indeed he was a citizen) when he went to school in Indonesia as Barry Sorentino. When he returned to the US, the did not apply for citizenship. Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-purIpvLuUo
JonnyO | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Kek –
Obama was born in Kansas. There is NOTHING here to be scandalized about. You’re reading stuff that just isn’t true. He IS and American citizen.
Jeremy West | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Even a cursory examination of the graphic referenced finds the C and K so obviously tampered with and, in fact, the whole line is out of context graphically with the surrounding print. Just zooming in on the graphic as viewed in a new version browser is sufficient to see the tampering.
Marshall | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
“Obama was born in Kansas.” Oh that’s a good one. The birth certificate that most left-wingers and snopes cling to, says he was born in Hawaii, but when there have been no apparent records of his birth their, you just declare his birth was in Kansas? Come on now, there have been so many different claims as to where he was born. I think it’s really sad when a president is so secretive, that there are millions of people that can’t even verify or agree on without a doubt where he was born. That alone really pisses me off. I still can’t believe the American people are this delusional and easily influenced by the media… They made him out to be a God that would change the world, and they fell for it by the masses.
Jay Are | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
So why lie and say he was born in Hawaii if that is the case. (Fact is, in 1961, BOTH parents had to be American Citizens if you were born abroad in order for you to be considered “Natural Born”)
Obama is a constitutional attorney, why lie about being born in Hawaii if it didn’t matter because his mom was a US citizen, when he was really born in Kenya as his grandmother says.
No one seems to be able to answer this question, why then the charade?
Medical Records? | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Why are people stating the law regarding medical records. As the article shows there ARE NO medical records for Obama or his mother in ANY hospital in Hawaii. Not for birth, not for anything. That is the point. America is being scammed and someone or the Supreme Court needs to stop it before we are in serious trouble.
Obama please tell us where you were born? Is the hospital really a state secret? if so Kenya?
How can anyone defend Obama in this at all? Does anyone care about the Constitution?
admin | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
The media is starting to cover issue but if you read this article ( front page of Houston Chronicle) they are incorrect about many things. Such as not telling that Hawaii issues birth certificates to people born in other nations. Also they fail to show that Hawaii DID NOT say Obama was natural born. That is a lie. They state that he has an authentic birth certificate on file – as does everyone else born in Russia, China and Kenya. All have authentic birth certificates and that is the damned point media. Why do they want to hide the facts like this – are they just closed minded or propagandists?
If this man takes office we enter a dark age in this nation.
Biased Houston Chronicle Article – http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6145787.html
Bruce Eden, Civil Rights Director, Dads Against Discrimination | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
It’s amazing that this guy got this far without a vetting of his constitutional requirements to be President. What I find interesting is why the Hawaii Governor last month, after Obama visited Hawaii to “see” his sick grandmother, sealed Obama’s birth certificate? If the birth certificate, as Obama, FactCheck.org, and Snopes all say is on the internet (see picture of Certificate of Live Birth above), then how and why is his “real” birth certificate being sealed by the Governor of Hawaii?
This indicates that there are 2 birth certificates–the one we are seeing on the internet, and another that we are NOT seeing–the “vault birth certificate” that is sealed in the Hawaii Records Bureau of Vital Statistics.
If Obama gets sworn in as President, will any of the laws or EOs he signs valid? By snubbing the US Constitution, will it invalidate the US Presidency? If he doesn’t follow the laws, do any of us (300 Million) have to follow ANY laws?
Wikipedia Lies | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Wikipedia says he was born at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women & Children. Since this hospital was checked and there are no medical records of Obama ever being born there, what else is wrong with Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_obama
Come on America I smell a rat and Obama is it.
admin | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
The college Republicans did their patriotic duty. Simply asking or even bribing a hospital employee to simply tell if a patient or two ( as in Obama and Mom) were ever in a hospital is rather easy and needed in this country. The media is not helping and continues to pump out biases news like the Houston Chronicle piece. If Americans don’t know the truth they figure they can do anything they want.
Word is now his supposed birth hospital ‘Has no comment’ or ‘due to pending litigation we are not able to confirm or deny if Barack Obama was born here’. Is this not a damned joke on America or what?
That is what they say if you call now. I never would have thought that one could scam their way into the White House, and to what end?
kittycat | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
I found this at TexasDarlin posted, so maybe someone needs to check out some Canadian hospitals that may be close to Washington state.
It’s posted by C.R. and it states below,” There are two factions amongst the people working on this (and I mean that across the country, not the office we’re at). One is that he was born in Kenya, based on a lack of evidence. But we’re of the firm belief in the Canadian birth. Why? Well, looks like there may be a document coming out of Washington state, of all places, SIGNED by his mother. We haven’t seen it, but looks like that item is coming down to America via a Southern state (I heard Alabama, then I heard Florida). So much so, that a rep from one of the S of S offices (one like me, a former hack, not someone on payroll) went up there to confirm before bringing it down.
We’ve had great support from some in Hawaii, who have been able to gain some access to the hospital records. Nothing seems complete, and again this is what I’ve heard not directly but from those who have been in on this much longer than I, that the hospital fiasco is based on one hospital knowing the other didn’t have the record and wanting to look like the birthplace – for money or donations, what have you. That all seems to be a mess, but the HI folks haven’t been able to turn up anything that would SUPPORT Obama – and the funny thing is, that “BC” we’ve seen out of HI doesn’t even match similar records from the SAME DAY!”
cwm | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
So if Obama is proven to be unable to hold office, who gets it? Does the VP take over, or is there another election?
NObama | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
As much as I would like to believe all this there are many other ways to be a natural citizen than being born in the United States. The constitution has something my teacher called “the law of blood.” It says that you can be born in a foreign nation but as long as your parents are US citizens then you are one too.
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
Obama could meet one of these requirements and all these arguments would be pointless. And you better believe that the democrats are going to do everything to make sure he meets at least one of them.
cg | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Even though Obama’s mother was an American citizen, one must have been born on a United States Military Base outside of the continental United States to be a “Natural Born Citizen”. Obama was born in Kenya and not on a United States Military Base. Obama may be a citizen, but not a Natural Born Citizen.
Here's a Real Birth Certificate | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
If anyone wants to see a real Hawaii birth certificate and notice why Obama will NEVER release his, see this http://fredsitelive.com/reference/Real_hawaii_certificate-1963.jpg
it tells of the Hospital which Obama and family still lie about, tells Dr. that delivered and much much more. All info that if released will give the Supreme Court the ammunition to nullify the election by instructing the electors that one candidate is not Constitutionally able to take the office. That is Obama. If the electors were to vote for Obama in this case, they would be violating Federal law, the Supreme Court and the Constitution of the United States. I Await the SCOTUS ( Supreme Court of the United States) tomorrow. It is going to be along weekend if they don’t say something tomorrow.
SiV | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
what’s really sad is the fact that the American public voted for this guy. There is so much fraud going on in politics that it may very well bring down the country.
And it looks like it already is…
Wendy | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
You may be an American, but you are not a “natural born” citizen. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE NITWIT
Duh | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Its amazing how dumb some of you really are…
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
what a mess | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Obama is not a natural citizen if he at any time renounced his citizenship (and I think he did) or if his mother renounced hers (and I think she did).
rx sid | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
A) Hawaiian law, at the time of Obama’s birth, allowed for FOREIGN born (i.e. outside of Hawaii) baby’s to be registered in Hawaii via a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’:
“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State…”
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.htm
B) The Hawaiian govt’ officials NEVER stated that Obama was born in Hawaii. They only stated that they have seen his birth certificate on file. But a B.C. from where?? (see #1 above).
On October 31, 2008, Dr Chiyome Fukino, Department of Health, Hawaii, issued a press release in which she stated, in part:
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
For the Hawaiian ‘Policies and Procedures’ she refereed to…see item #1 above which, again, affords foreign born babies to obtain a Hawaiian COLB (within 1 year).
C) If proven Obama is indeed foreign born (Kenya), He would not have received U.S. citizenship based, only, on his mother’s citizenship status. Per U.S. law at the time of his birth (December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986).
“If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”
http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html
Obama’s mother would have had to have given birth to him when she was 21 (16 + 5). She didn’t. Therefore, Obama could not obtain U.S. citizenship based only by virtue his mother’s citizenship.
D) Examples of Hawaiian Long Form COLB’s:
1963 Hawaiian Long Form COLB: http://a5.vox.com/6a00c2252293c4604a0100a80270e5000e-pi
1962 Hawaiian Long Form COLB: http://passportsusa.com/wp-content/gallery/passportusa/edith_front.jpg
Obviously, the Long Form COLB’s have a whole lot more detailed information (including the birth Hospital) than the short form Obama posted (questionable authenticity) shows. Why hasn’t he released his Long form COLB?
E) And then there is the dual citizenship issue. Factcheck themselves state that Obama was indeed a British subject and did in fact hold dual citizenship AT Birth.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
“In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen … and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC)”
So even IF he was indeed born in Hawaii (would be easy for him to prove but hasn’t so far), Obama could therefore not be a Natural Born citizen because Natural Born citizens can not hold dual citizenship at birth. It has to do with the potential for divided loyalties.
He might be a “Naturalized” Citizen, but there is nothing (to date) in the public sector to suggest he is a ‘Natural Born” Citizen, which is what the Constitution clearly requires for one to become POTUS.
Obama owes it to our country, and to the Constitution to go public with a copy of his 1961 Long Form original birth certificate (COLB).
It is, without question, that (at the very least) the Secretary of State of New Jersey did NOT do their job in making sure the candidates (including Obama) were qualified and eligible to be on their states’ ballot.
Why?
How would the SoS from NJ explain that Roger Calero was on their ballet as a candidate?
Socialist Workers Party candidate Roger Calero isn’t even a U.S. citizen, yet appeared on NJ’s presidential ballot.
Alec | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Hannity FINALLY Mentions Constitutional Lawsuits Against Obama On His RADIO SHOW
Sean Hannity is FINALLY talking about the Birth Certificate, The Supreme Court .
I don’t know why he and other journalists have not followed up- but SEAN FINALLY brought it up!
Maybe now, SOMEONE will pay attention to this Constitutional Issue !!!
From World Net Daily:
‘Natural-born’ requirement called ’stupidest provision’
Also ‘discriminates, outdated, undemocratic and assumes birthplace a proxy for loyalty’
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Posted: December 03, 2008
9:00 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
An associate lawyer in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on a finance committee for then-Sen. Barack Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that a president be a “natural-born” citizen, calling the requirement “stupid” and asserting it discriminates, is outdated and undemocratic.
Barack Obama and Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga
The paper was written in 2006 by Sarah Herlihy, just two years after Obama had won a landslide election in Illinois to the U.S. Senate. Herlihy is listed as an associate at the Chicago firm of Kirkland & Ellis. A partner in the same firm, Bruce I. Ettelson, cites his membership on the finance committees for both Obama and Sen. Richard Durbin on the corporate website.
The article by Herlihy is available online under law review articles from Kent University.
The issue is the subject of nearly two dozen court cases in recent weeks, including at least two that have gone to the U.S. Supreme Court.
There have been accusations that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as his campaign has stated. His paternal grandmother has stated she was in attendance at his birth in Mombasa. While Hawaii officials say they have seen his birth certificate, they have declined to release information from it.
Join more than 150,000 others in signing WND’s online petition calling for release of Barack Obama’s birth certificate and verifying beyond any shadow of a doubt his constitutional eligibility for office. This offer ends Thursday at noon Eastern Time to ensure all letters are delivered by Friday morning to the Supreme Court.
The Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet isn’t considered by critics to resolve the issue, since during the 1960s when Obama was born, the new state issued the document to infants not necessarily born in Hawaii.
There also remain unanswered questions about his youth, when he lived and attended school in Indonesia and later when he traveled to Pakistan. The questions include whether he gave up a U.S. citizenship to attend school or traveled on another nation’s passport to Pakistan at a time when U.S. passports were unwelcome there.
Answers to those issues could determine whether Obama meets the Constitution’s demand for a “natural-born” citizen.
Herlihy’s published paper reveals that the requirement likely was considered in a negative light by organizations linked to Obama in the months before he announced in 2007 his candidacy for the presidency.
“The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the ’stupidest provision’ in the Constitution, “undecidedly un-American,” “blatantly discriminatory,” and the “Constitution’s worst provision,” Herlihy begins in her introduction to the paper titled, “Amending the Natural Born Citizen Requirement: Globalization as the Impetus and the Obstacle.”
She concludes that the “emotional” reasons to oppose changing the Constitution will prevail over the “rational” reasons demanding a change.
“The current American perceptions about the effects of globalization and the misunderstanding about what globalization actually is will result in Americans deciding that naturalized citizens should not be president because this would, in effect, be promoting globalization, Herlihy wrote.
“Although this argument is admittedly circular, because globalization is the thing that makes the need to abolish the requirement more and more persuasive, Americans’ subsequent perceptions about globalization are the very things that will prevent Americans from embracing the idea of eliminating the natural born requirement.
“Logical Americans are looking for a reason to ignore the rational reasons promoted by globalization so that they may vote based on their own emotions and instincts,” she wrote.
Read all the evidence about Obama’s birthplace in Jerome Corsi’s “The Obama Nation.”
She blamed support for the constitutional provision on “fear, racism, religious intolerance, or blind faith in the decisions of the Founding Fathers.”
WND called Herlihy’s number listed on the law firm website, and a woman answered with, “Sarah Herlihy.” But when WND identified itself as a news agency, the woman said she didn’t think “Sarah Herlihy” was in, but would take a message. There was no return call.
In the body of her argument, Herlihy said the constitutional provision simply is outdated.
“Considering that the Founding Fathers presumably included the natural born citizen clause in the Constitution partly out of fear of foreign subversion, the current stability of the American government and the intense media scrutiny of presidential candidates virtually eliminates the possibility of a ‘foreigner’ coming to America, becoming a naturalized citizen, generating enough public support to become president, and somehow using the presidency to directly benefit his homeland,” she wrote.
“The natural born citizen clause of the United States Constitution should be repealed for numerous reasons. Limiting presidential eligibility to natural born citizens discriminates against naturalized citizens, is outdated and undemocratic, and incorrectly assumes that birthplace is a proxy for loyalty,” she wrote.
Many of the reasons for keeping the limit, she wrote, “are based primarily on emotion.”
A web blogger suggested, “So it sure looks like Obama’s people have looked into the matter of ‘natural born’ as far back as early 2006. What is even more disturbing is that it would appear that they are following the thought of: ‘If the facts do not support the theory, Destroy the facts!”
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Sting | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Wow, you people really cannot handle defeat well, so you resort to these ridiculous conspiracy theories? Do you people actually listen to yourselves? You sound so crazy, you make the 911 truthers sound sane.
There is nothing here, people. No story. Obama is a US citizen, born in Hawaii and it’s been verified and authenticated by the state government of Hawaii, and not a single idiot blogger and done anything to prove otherwise.
I love watching wingnuts flail in their own feces.
Jimmy Smither | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
I think it is about official now. Everyone who uses the word wingnut on this page is a complete moron who didn’t even read the article. Had they they would clearly see how Hawaii NEVER EVER SAID that he was born in Hawaii. They were smart to avoid future Federal prosecution. What they said was there was an authentic original birth certificate on file ( that we are not allowed to see for some strange reason). That is all.
Since you didn’t read the article, let me tell you that anyone born in any foreign nation can easily get an ‘Authentic and Original Hawaiian birth certificate as well.
Knowing this now I claim that all those who say wingnut without even reading are just morons.
You people can’t just think a little. Are you really incapable of thinking?
Sid Davis | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
I am surprised that hospitals would still have records of those who were admitted as patients as far back at 1961.
Were names checked both for Mrs. Barack Obama and for Stanley Ann Dunham? August 4, 1961 was a Friday. According to the Certification of Live Birth that was the date of birth. It also indicates that the registrar filed the documents August 8, 1961, the following Tuesday. If he was born on the 4th, certainly his mother would have been admitted on that day, or even earlier, unless it was one of those deals where the baby is born at home, and the mother does not make it to a hospital, but then this would be family lore and Obama’s family members would not be making up hospital names?
There is something screwy about all this.
Anonymouse | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
To Admin and Daman:
BEWARE of Fox. African Press International (a blogging news outlet) claimed to have CONTRACTED with Fox to broadcast API’s alleged tape of Michelle Obama before the election took place, and the tape never aired. Afterward API claimed it had discovered that one of the contract signers was an Obama adherent.
NWO OP-FOR | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=af7_1212773440
Obama, ordained by the Bilderberg Group, is supposed to be the next leader of the worlds government…if we like it or not. Nothing short of armed insurrection will stop the NWO socialists. Get ready while you still can.
Jim | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
It looks as if its well documented that Obama was not born in Hawaii!!!
Now if anyone produces a birth form from any hospital it a forgery and they should be arrested for doing so and also for aiding and abetting to subvert and over throw the Untied States Constitution! This is a very serious charge and if found guilty means jail time and mandatory disenfranchisement! In other word’s they become a second class citizen and have no right’s what so ever.
JeanD | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
Your blog entry refers to the Coast Provincial Hospital, but you post a link that takes one to the Mombasa Hospital-which is a different hospital and the oldest one in Mombasa. Mombasa Hospital had a different name in 1961 and would have been a natural one for his mom to have a baby in, as they were perceived as catering to the white population, and it is a private hospital, rather than a public/govt. one as Coast Provincial is.
Need to get your story straight. Which one is it?
yonason | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
If that’s the case, then McCain should also not be eligible because he was not born in the USA or on US territory. If that’s the case, and Bush can’t serve a third term, that’s a real problem.
Here’s how Queen Elizabeth’s son was saved from that trap by a clever Rabbi, when she went into premature labor while visiting relatives in Germany.
http://www.revach.net/article.php?id=1443
yonason | Dec 4, 2008 | Reply
IMPORTANT CORRECTION
Replying to my own last post. I didn’t read the comments at the bottom until today. After I did, I checked them and found the story appears to be false. But I had heard that story a long while back which is why I didn’t question it this time. Sorry if I have misled anyone.
Jim | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
the socialist really tried hard to push the MCCain birth and it worked on some people, the ones that voted for Obama took it hook line and sinker. Now Obama says I dont need a BC to be Pres-thats a stupid rule and its working on some peopl, the ones that voted for Obama are taking it hook line and sinker………pattern ? facts dont matter? A tin foil hat thing does not have this much concrete proof. If it was a Tin hat the Judges would tell us and Obama would not have 3 law firms on this case –hes has had them on this since 2006
Keith | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
Here’s my question.
Even if he was not born in the United States, wouldn’t he still be a citizen based on the fact that his mother was?
It seems Obama thinks he has something to hide given his behavior over this issue.
americanwoman | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
If there is nothing to hide, why does Obama find it necessary to hire three law firms and spend more than a million dollars to keep the document under wraps? Pray and keep your powder dry.
Don'tBeIgnorant | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
To LevelHeaded:
The link you posted to the “newspaper announcement” of Obama’s birth takes one to an article from WIKIPEDIA, which is not EVER a reliable source of information due to the fact that anyone can edit it. In addition, the very FIRST sentence should have clued you in that there’s a problem…the word “announcement” was spelled “announcment”. Spelling errors are always an indication of a falsified document/website.
Jimmy Smither | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
I just noticed that MSNBC has an article about it. Does it not worry some of you that the media reports it like this? http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/26/1689515.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage
They fail to mention that Hawaii issues real and authentic birth certificates to people born in other nations.
Look at the comments and see also how bias operates. This is MSNBC and just try to make a comment that tells some facts on the case. They will not print it! I tried twice, had my cousin across the country try too. They will not print anything that doesn’t agree with the party line.
This I think is more scary to me than anything else. We have a media that is censoring the news. Playing like this is the Soviet Union and Obama isn’t even in 0ffice yet! This does not look good for America if this is the future.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/11/26/1689515.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage
JDL51 | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
“Kek – why the law should be important to you? Well if we throw out our Constitution then maybe someone can kill you at will, do to you as they please, deny you rights, tell you how and where to live and so on. This may not be important to some, but for most Americans I would say it is important.
We love our freedoms and what guarantees this freedom is the Constitution of the United States.”
That sounds like what’s been happening the past eight years, yet no one on the right thought anything of it.
constitution101 | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
It doesnt matter wether or not he was a citizen based on his mother being a citizen. The fact is that if you are born outside of the country it is against the law to be president. It is in our constitution. So citizen or not,if you werent born on american soil,you cannot legally become president. This is probably why he is a making a big hulabalu about his birth certificate
infidelgranny | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
How did you get that info from any hospital without BHO’s permission? I am an RN and I know about the confidentiality laws. I just called the medical records department at Queens Hoaspital in Honolulu and was told I had to have BHO’s permissiion to learn if he was born there or if his mother was ever there. Look, I want to get to the bottom of this just like everyone else but I smell a rat. Please tell me how you just called up these hospitals or walked in there asking for this info and got the truth. Did hospial employees break the law for you and go snoooping through the files or the microphish? Do you realize that you are bragging on the internet that you and/or someone else broke a FEDERAL law?! Wow. Well get ready for the Obama police to come for you. If you think they were hard on Joe the Plumber you just wait. OMG. I hope for your sake you are lying through your teeth to get attention so that’s all you will get. That attention is not going to be good but I doubt the law can get you for what you SAID you did. Unless it’s for slander, maybe. Holy crap are you niave.
admin | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
Jimmy – You’re right MSNBC is like most of the mainstream media. They don’t want it widely know that Hawaii issues birth certificates to people born in other nations.
The forum for that article though looks closed since Nov 26th, but that doesn’t change the fact that they would not have published your response anyway. Just look at the comments. Not one is in opposition.
Constitution 101 – I have to correct you. You can be born outside of America and still be a ‘Natural born citizen’. The definition includes children of military stationed overseas, wherever they are born. Like McCain’s parents in Panama where McCain was born, he is still a natural born citizen.
Obama born in Kenya to one Kenyan National with an underage American citizen (his Mom) makes Obama NOT a Natural born citizen.
For those of you still stuck on Factcheck. Once again Factcheck would say all of them – any of the thousands of birth certificates from people born in Japan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and India who all have Hawaiian Real Birth Certificates are REAL. This obviously doesn’t mean that any of them, including Barack Obama were born in Hawaii.
Also on Obama’s Fifth the Smears website it links to Factcheck which states that When Obama was born he was under the rules of the British Crown which ruled Kenya at the time of Obama’s theft. Take a look – and copy it fast. http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=1621
Obama has a habit of changing his website once people catch him with either lies or mistakes that make him guilty.
admin | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
Infidelgranny – Good question covered in other comments above as well as the article that you didn’t read?
Some are saying they ‘illegally’ acquired the knowledge but at the same time since no record of Obama or mother is present in any hospital in Hawaii something is wrong. Obviously no one’s records were tampered with as they were never in a hospital and Obama was not born where claimed.
As far as the methodology of asking about if a patient was even in a hospital, well take a look at that whole Joe The Plumber episode. The poor man asks a question of Obama and is roasted by the mainstream media and his past dived into illegally. All for a question.
I would say someone who may not qualify for being President is much much more important that what was done with Joe the Plumber against his will. To hell with Obama’s will on this issue. If we could we would even break into the Health Department in Hawaii to get a copy of his birth certificate if we had the chance. Believe me they thought about it.
Hey if Obama and crew can spy illegally on the past and whole life of a Private citizen who merely asked him a question, I’ll be damned if Any American jury would convict any of the college Republicans for ‘illegally’ getting information on a potential President of the United States set to take office in a month.
America deserves to know.
As I see it Obama has no privacy on this issue and he is a scamming criminal to dare think he can hide his whole past from the public.
P. Barnett | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
If this is authentic information, please email me. I am suing CA SOS regarding Obama’s eligibility to be POTUS. You can check out the website. http://drorly.blogspot.com/
Would you be willing to share all of your information and sign an affadavit we could submit to court?
infidelgranny | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
I agree with everything you said. I wish someone would break in somewhere to get the info if that’s what it would take. BUT would that eveidence be admisable in court? If it is illegally obtained will Obama get to skate? Who ever takes the BC would have to have a dam good lawyer or they will end up in jail and BHO would get to be president. A dam good attorney, a great plan of action and kept quiet until all their ducks were in a row. Ihope they wouldn’t resort to blackmail- I seriously think that would be the quickest way to end up dead. Ever wonder who murdered the chior master at Trinity United Church in Chicago or why? Things that make you go hmmm.
infidelgranny | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
Here’s something else. A bit off track but whatever…WHERE ARE BHO’S WHITE RELATIVES? We know his mother and grandparents are dead. OK. Doesn’t he have any other white relatives? Were his grandparents the only children born to their families? Unless that’s the case BHO should have a white aunt or uncle or cousins somewhere. He is still a relatively young man so the chances of him outliving all his white relatives are sorta slim, don’t you think? I can’t believe I am only asking myself this question today. I have a very enquiering mind but this one slipped by me. Anybody have any information?
Fred | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
This is what a real Hawaiian Birth Certificate should look like:
http://a5.vox.com/6a00c2252293c4604a0100a80270e5000e-pi
Mrs. P. 65582 | Dec 5, 2008 | Reply
Yes, there is a birth announcement, but it doesn’t state “where” he was born….still could have been born in Kenya and Grandma had the announcement put in the paper.
Steve | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
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Steve | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
Keith, I made the statement about 3 days ago. In order for a child to be a natural citizen at least one parent has to be from the U.S. and be 5 years past their 16th birthday. The mother was only 18.
alkaholik | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
ok let me get this right,you white people will stoop to any level to keep a white man in office because that’s exactly what it seems like. so I guess you ppl forgot white ppl has screwed up everything round here. the sad part is im black and don’t care for bho myself. im a republican and im from detroit I served in the military but somehow u guys would try to say im not a naturalborn citizen. you guys act like obama is going to make u guys report to the cotton fields on jan21 for orientation ohh wait white ppl did that,u guys make it seem like obama is the reason why we are in a financial mess,ohh white ppl did that. umm ohh yeah obama blew up the federal building in oklahoma and started the unjustified war in iraq ohh wait,nevermind. I guess because he was on welfare,u know what its more white ppl on welfare than black but that doesn’t matter.
all i’ve seen from the man is he’s trying to correct problems that u racist assed white ppl created. nice job on continually trying to keep the white race on top when the real problem is WE’RE ALL ON THE BOTTOM. grow up because I really want to know,do white hate black ppl that much where they will stoop to any level for a tainted win so we get left with john mcsame and his nurse for potus and vp.
BraveEagle | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
If EarthFrisk can get information from Hawaiian hospitals by whatever means, perhaps they can do the same with the Mombasa Coastal Provincial Hospital.
If they could get a certified true copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate issued by that hospital by whatever means, that would be very damning positive proof that he wasn’t a natural born U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible to be president of the United States.
admin | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
Kenya is an independent nation that has already frozen Obama’s file at the hospital. They are instituting a national holiday for Obama and his family there claim to have been at his birth there in Kenya.
Trying to violate the authorities in a not-so-free nation like Kenya isn’t quite as risk free or near risk free as doing some investigative work in hospitals in Hawaii. Plus we don’t have many college students already in Kenya to even attempt the leg work.
Anonymouse | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
alkaholik said “you white people will stoop to any level to keep a white man in office because that’s exactly what it seems like.”
Thanks for answering a couple questions I had.
1. I was wondering if blacks can be truly proud of a candidate who got into office via allegedly illegal means.
2. I was wondering if skin color is more important to blacks than honesty and integrity, so that any person — whether Barry Soetoro or someone else — who might illegally break into the office of POTUS is A-OK to people whose skin color is the same.
Looks like you’ve provided an answer. Is that how you choose your friends? By the color of their skin? Nothing else matters as much?
By the way, are you aware that Obama’s genetic makeup is only a tiny fraction of black? If the investigators into his genealogy are correct, he is 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% black. His black genes come from only one grandmother. His father is mostly Arab.
If you think you voted for a black man, you are sadly mistaken. You voted for dark colored skin, but that book cover didn’t let you know what is inside the book.
You are defending a president-elect who is half white and almost half Arab (Middle Eastern). Cool work, man!
Lisa | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
Your are such a fool. I looked at that birth announcement and if you look at mommy and daddies name it doesn’t match the BC for Obama so unless I am missing the fine print you show everyone the name and the announcement.
Stop being an ignorant fool
kittycat | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
Has anyone ever searched in genealogy places for this family? The reason that I’m asking is, I have info that BO, Sr. and Ann Dunham were married in Feb. of 1961. Yet LDS reports 1960. Look at this:
Stanley Ann Dunham Compact Disc #142 Pin #2345499 Pedigree
Sex: F
Event(s)
Birth: 1942
Kansas
Death: 1995
Hawaii
Parents
Father:
Mother: Living
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Barack Hussien Obama , Sr. Disc #142 Pin #2345500
Marriage: 1960
Spouse: Lolo Soetoro Disc #142 Pin #2345503
Steve | Dec 6, 2008 | Reply
OK, alkaholik has just gone a touch far for my taste. I am not sure exactly where to begin but here I go.
First let me point out that no history was made in this presidential election. A “Black President” was not elected. A President was elected, exactly what we set out to do and have done every four years since this country was formed.
Second let me explain that the entire thought: we have just proved to the whole world that we are an evolved society because we have the ability to cross racial lines and elect a black president to office is in fact proof that we are still very much unevolved as a society. So to break that down for ya, any time you want to stand up and say ” look at us, look at us we have a Black President” you are actually saying to any intelligent person” look at us, look at us, we have a Token black guy”. You Sir or Madam are THE MOST RACIAL person I have had the displeasure to read on this blog!!! So sit down, shut up and let the grown ups have a civilized conversation. Or if you really want to go there, let me try and form things like W.E.T. (white Entertainment Television), or white history month, or The United Caucasian College Fund and see exactly where the racism oozes out of. Being a minority is not a disability so get over your self.
M Horne | Dec 7, 2008 | Reply
You can lay the war in Iraq at the feet of gwb, but this economic mess is all democratic. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should be in jail. You could have picked many other dems (that I would not have voted for) and I would have stayed quiet and accepted defeat.But BHO is not now and never was qualified under the law to be president. Democrats should be just as incensed at this travesty. It is your Constitution too!
CryptoHunter | Dec 7, 2008 | Reply
I heard a Democrat Congrassman on the Tom Sullivan radio show a couple weeks ago talking about the lawsuit he had filed to have Obama’s birth certificate released. Unfortunately I cannot recall if it was Fact Check or Snopes, but he stated that Obama & Ayers used to sit on the Board of Directors of the comapny that owned the website. Since then I have not believed anything either of them have had to say on the subject. They both tend to mirror what the other reports, and with the connection to Obama revealed they should abstain from any discussions on the subject.
admin | Dec 8, 2008 | Reply
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_obama
Supreme Court will NOT review case against Obama.
Supreme Court will NOT review case against Obama.
It will be very very bad this next year. Obama isn’t kidding when he said the economy will get worse. He is the first President in History since Hoover and Roosevelt to increase spending during a recession/depression with unemployment growing weekly.
America will be a different place soon.
Get ready for major government with Obama’s new deal which will most likely have his new police force thrown in.
All eyes on Jan 20th and Obama’s speech.
America is not out yet, though we’re headed for a major blow.
We’ve survived worse I guess. Whatever happens America, DO NOT GIVE UP your guns. The second amendment is the enforcement clause of the bill of rights against tyranny. If Obama is going to go that way he has to create his police force or ‘civil defense group’. When that is created all bets are off as this group will help in collecting arms from free or formerly free citizens.
Once the guns are gone then America is Obama and the Progressive/Liberal Fascist tyranny.
I will not surrender and quite honestly would rather die fighting than let America go down that road.
Marshall | Dec 8, 2008 | Reply
“At least one other appeal over Obama’s citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and the Hawaii secretary of state has confirmed. Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg’s lawsuit.”
I’m not sure if that’s significant or not, but oh well. I expected as much anyway.
Gleich | Dec 8, 2008 | Reply
Admin-
It is such a pleasure imagining the constipated look on your face as you write this very intense, highly racially charged, impending doom bologna.
I thought Obama would NOT be president… that’s what you said anyway. Guess you need to re-evaluate what is ‘fact’ and what is ‘obscure racist propaganda.’ And it is racist, and it is redneck, so please don’t kid yourself into thinking you’re a model American.
I also like how you are instigating riots riots. Keep the powder dry. Thats a laugh. It’s all you haters know how to do when shit doesnt turn out right for you, use guns.
You talk of ‘Obama’s police force’, when we’re not even done with the police state that Bush has created. Look up the patriot act.
The first black president is upon us. Breathe deeply, it will all be OK.
admin | Dec 8, 2008 | Reply
Gleich – I write highly racially charged what? Well hate to break it to you but I don’t write much here. Secondly what is it that I let be published that is racist? Please elaborate as I don’t allow such things on this blog.
Marshall – I hope the Berg case is taken quickly as by December 15th it will be too late. Then Obama will be elected by the Electoral College. Only the House will be able to impeach him from then on. With them having an incoming dominance in numbers I find this outcome less and less likely as each day passes.
All that would be needed before Dec 15th is the Supreme Court to make an announcement that Obama is either in contempt of court for not supplying his birth certificate which may disqualify him from becoming President, and then instructing the Electors that if they were to vote for Obama they would be violating the Constitution and be liable legally immediately. Refer to the Justice Department. All of this relying now exclusively on Berg case. If they don’t take it up immediately this is all fantasy.
That’s it. This option grows more and more difficult as each day passes. I’m still hopeful but who knows.
Anonymouse | Dec 8, 2008 | Reply
Whatever happened to the video that was expected to be “released . . . shortly” — as of 5 days ago “supposedly in another day or so”?
API never did make public their alleged video; I hope this isn’t another apparent hoax like API’s.
Marshall | Dec 8, 2008 | Reply
Gleich- So let me get this straight… If you support Obama with extreme emotion and enthusiasm, then you’re a true American, but if you don’t like him or his policies, then you’re an all out racist? You are aware that Obama is a racist right? Only a racist would refer to white people as “typical white people”, and accuse them of being generally afraid and or awkward around black people. Also, he got 96% of the black vote, with the largest black turnout in history, and I don’t see you calling racism on that. Believe me, most of the racism during this entire election has been coming from the democrats and their supporters. They and the media have been referring to this has a historic election from the beginning, and they were dead set on “making history”, because they focused more on race than anyone else. Face the facts, your fellow elitists (aka democrats/left-wingers) are just as prone, if not more so to racism. It’s called “Racial Guilt”, and it’s something the left-wing has a huge problem with. It’s the idea that we owe black people because of the past wrongs that were afflicted upon them by “some” of our ancestors.
admin | Dec 9, 2008 | Reply
Great follow up on this topic and why it is important. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/obama_derangement_syndrome.html
Anonymouse | Dec 9, 2008 | Reply
The video? Where’s the promised video of the Hawaiian patriot college students querying personnel from all the Hawaiian hospitals and the personnel replying that Obama and his mother were not in the personnel’s respective hospitals at the time Obama was born? IF the video does in fact exist, when and where will it be aired?
alkaholik | Dec 9, 2008 | Reply
so now i’m getting censored on here.
Anyways,obama isn’t trying to take your guns,he wants automatic assault weapons off the street. Geez,you ppl need to stop listening to hannity. No single man can amend the right to bear arms. You guys are either stupid or can shoot straight so you need an m16 to go deer hunting where you gotta lob 50 bullets to hit a deer. Tell me what do u need an assault weapon for. I wonder what u guys will say next? Obama is an arab operative who works for bin laden and will fly air force 1 into the sears tower.
kittycat | Dec 9, 2008 | Reply
Wow, y’all are great doing this investigation on Obama and his mama. I love this!
Also, have you checked the year 1960 just in case? Since BO is allergic to truth, maybe he reported a wrong date for his birthday.
Well, whatever, keep up the good work!
Kitty
Jim | Dec 10, 2008 | Reply
Citizen – yes
Natural born citizen – no (both parents must be citizens to be natural born)
It doesn’t matter where he was born but he is hiding something, most likely Kenyan birth because that would disqualify him twice. I don’t know what he is worried about. Our justice system wouldn’t go after him no matter what he does.
no to obama | Dec 15, 2008 | Reply
The best source of information on the net on Obama and the lawsuits:
http://www.ObamaNotQualified.com
MirAnda | Dec 18, 2008 | Reply
TO BE A NATURAL BORN UNITED STATES CITIZEN MEANS THAT BOTH, YES BOTH, PARENTS ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS, IF THAT PERSON IS BORN OUT OF THE UNITED STATES. OBAMAS FATHER WAS NOT A CITIZEN!
THEREFORE, OBAMA WOUD NOT, NOT, NOT BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
tminu | Dec 27, 2008 | Reply
In response to Mr. Nakaso’s article in the Honolulu Advertiser: “Twin sisters, Obama on parallel paths for years
Born in same hospital within hours of each other, educated together”
Mr. Nakaso, Ann Dunham was never a patient at Kapiolani hospital. She is deceased and it was already investigated.
http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=135
This was already deduced. So why are you publishing this rubbish about twins sisters being born at the same time as Barack Obama at Kapiolani? ( http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081222/NEWS01/812220320/1352 )? Is this to create a false backstory for Barack Obama’s birthplace?
I am sending this out to be published on the web as well.
Walt | Jan 1, 2009 | Reply
I’m WHITE and my wife and I both voted for Allen Keys!
It’s NOT about him being BLACK!
Enough said!
Walt | Jan 1, 2009 | Reply
Dear alkaholik,
IT’S NOT THE “BILL OF NEEDS”
IT’S CALLED THE
“BILL OF RIGHTS”!
Jasper James | Jan 3, 2009 | Reply
I read that Nancy Pelosi certified that Obama is eligible to be president. I wonder if anyone has questioned her on what she did to verify his eligibility. Probably she looked at his COLB or she simply took his word for it. I have not read anywhere that the FBI investigated his background and eligibility. I doubt they would publish anything on the internet about their investigation anyway, so we cannot conclude that they did investigate. It bothers me to think that perhaps they invetigated – and kept whatever they found to themselves. If they found something – perhaps they could use it to keep control on him. Didn’t Hoover do this with Kennedy? That possibility is one of the reasons that we need a public vetting of Obama, not a private vetting. I think he probably was born in Hawaii. I am not sure why he refuses to release his BC, other than the fact that he has not been required to by any official government agency. This whole issue makes me thin we need a better system of vetting a President. I am sure every SOS simply read the Nancy Certification and did nothing more to verify his eligibilty. They all felt it was not their job. But given the subsequent questions you would think one of them would have guts to do something wouldn’t you? Even if Obama was born in Hawaii – he still is not a Natural Born Citizen. Hawaii is not a legal state of the United States! See the following website: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/HAWAII/hawaii.html In 1999, the United Nations confirmed that the plebiscite vote that led to Hawaii’s statehood was in violation of article 73 of the United Nations’ charter. The Hawaii statehood vote, under treaty then in effect, was illegal and non-binding. On November 23, 1993, President Clinton signed United States Public Law 103-150, which not only acknowledged the illegal actions committed by the United States in the overthrow of the legitimate government of Hawaii, but also that the Hawaiian people never surrendered their sovereignty. The latter is the most important part of United States Public Law 103-150 for it makes it quite clear that the Hawaiian people never legally ceased to be a sovereign separate independent nation. There is no argument that can change that fact. United States Public Law 103-150, despite its polite language, is an official admission that the government of the United States illegally occupies the territory of the Hawaiian people. So even if Obama was born in Hawaii – he was not born in a legal U.S. State and is not a NBC.
Lying Blog | Jan 9, 2009 | Reply
Obama was born in HI. You have no proof against that only more lies. The hospital won’t deny he was born there.
“We can’t confirm or deny it — even though all the information out there says he was born at Kapiolani Hospital. And that’s because of the HIPA law.”
Tong acknowledged that the center has received daily inquiries from news agencies far and wide asking for confirmation of Obama’s birthplace. Much as she wishes she could do it, Tong said it’s not possible.
“Our hands are tied,” she said.
nevergiveup | Jan 21, 2009 | Reply
I must believe it is not too late.
O is an angry racist fraud who stands for nothing with no track record -
listen to him on tape – not too mention all the youtube clips…
We most press forward and remove this liar from office -
I love my country and fellow man –
He’s counting on our backing down – let the liberals paint us as the racists..
Educated voters of all colors did not vote for him. The liberals are using him and he’s appeasing people like McCain -
I see through and remain committed to ask any and all questions until they are answered.
geoerge | Feb 28, 2009 | Reply
At the top right hand corner of Page 17 of the New York Post of January 24th, 2009, was a short column entitled “Replacing Michelle” in the National Review “The Week” column. So here it is, word for word:
‘Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama: The
University of Chicago Medical center hired her in 2002 to run “programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity and minority contracting.”
In 2005, the hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000 – nearly twice what her husband made as a Senator.
Oh, did we mention that her husband had just become a US Senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 Million earmark for the UC Medical
Center, in fact. Way to network Michelle!
But now that Mrs Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth $317,000?
Senator Roland Burris’s wife wasn’t interested.
— The Editors of National Review, writing in the Magazine’s Feb 9 issue.